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GOD's Spirit came upon many people other than Jesus:

Trinitanian Christians claim that since Jesus carried GOD's spirit, then he must be GOD himself !.  They often present these verses from the Bible:

Isaiah 11:1-3 "1. A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
2. The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him (Jesus)-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of
counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD
(Jesus fearing his GOD)--
3. and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or
decide by what he hears with his ears;"

Matthew 12:18 "Here is my servant whom I have chosen, the one I love, in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him (Jesus), and he will proclaim justice to the nations."

  • Jesus was able to drive out demon spirits with GOD Almighty's Spirit:

    Matthew 12:28 But when I force out demons by the power of Godís Spirit, it proves that Godís kingdom has already come to you.
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    Let us also look at the many others who carried GOD's spirit in them in the Bible:

    Others who carried GOD's Spirit in them:

    From www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm:

    Matthew 10:19-20

    19 But when someone arrests you, donít worry about what you will say or how you will say it. At that time you will be given the words to say.
    20 But you will not really be the one speaking. The Spirit from your Father will tell you what to say.

      

      
    1 Samuel 16:16 "Let our lord command his servants here to search for someone who can play the harp. He will play when the evil spirit from God comes upon you, and you will feel better."

    1 Samuel 18:10 "The next day an evil spirit from God came forcefully upon Saul. He was prophesying in his house, while David was playing the harp, as he usually did. Saul had a spear in his hand..."

    1 Samuel 19:9 "But an evil spirit from the LORD came upon Saul as he was sitting in his house with his spear in his hand. While David was playing the harp,..."

    1 Kings 22:22 " 'By what means?' the LORD asked. " 'I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said. " 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'

    1 Kings 22:23 "So now the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The LORD has decreed disaster for you."

    2 Chronicles 18:21 " 'I will go and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said. " 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'

    Numbers 24:2 "When Balaam looked out and saw Israel encamped tribe by tribe, the Spirit of God came upon him"

    Judges 3:10 "The Spirit of the LORD came upon him, so that he became Israel's judge and went to war. The LORD gave Cushan-Rishathaim king of Aram into
    the hands of Othniel, who overpowered him."

    Judges 6:34 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Gideon, and he blew a trumpet, summoning the Abiezrites to follow him."

    Judges 11:29 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah. He crossed Gilead and Manasseh, passed through Mizpah of Gilead, and from there he advanced against the Ammonites."

    Judges 14:6 "The Spirit of the LORD came upon him in power so that he tore the lion apart with his bare hands as he might have torn a young goat. But he told
    neither his father nor his mother what he had done."

    Judges 14:19 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon him in power. He went down to Ashkelon, struck down thirty of their men, stripped them of their belongings and gave their clothes to those who had explained the riddle. Burning with anger, he went up to his father's house."

    Judges 15:14 "As he approached Lehi, the Philistines came toward him shouting. The Spirit of the LORD came upon him in power. The ropes on his arms became like charred flax, and the bindings dropped from his hands."

    1 Samuel 10:6 "The Spirit of the LORD will come upon you in power, and you will prophesy with them; and you will be changed into a different person."

    1 Samuel 10:10 "When they arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him; the Spirit of God came upon him in power, and he joined in their prophesying."

    1 Samuel 11:6 "When Saul heard their words, the Spirit of God came upon him in power, and he burned with anger."

    1 Samuel 16:13 "So Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the presence of his brothers, and from that day on the Spirit of the LORD came upon David in power. Samuel then went to Ramah."

    1 Samuel 16:23 "Whenever the spirit from God came upon Saul, David would take his harp and play. Then relief would come to Saul; he would feel better, and the evil spirit would leave him."

    1 Samuel 19:20 "so he sent men to capture him. But when they saw a group of prophets prophesying, with Samuel standing there as their leader, the Spirit of God came upon Saul's men and they also prophesied."

    1 Samuel 19:23 "So Saul went to Naioth at Ramah. But the Spirit of God came even upon him, and he walked along prophesying until he came to Naioth."

    2 Chronicles 15:1 "The Spirit of God came upon Azariah son of Oded."

    Ezekiel 11:5 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon me, and he told me to say: "This is what the LORD says: That is what you are saying, O house of Israel, but I know what is going through your mind."

    Ezekiel 37:1 "The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD and set me in the middle of a valley; it was full of bones."

    Luke 1:35 "The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you (Mary), and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God."

    Luke 2:25 "Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him."

    From www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm:

    Cursing the Holy Spirit can't be forgiven proves the trinity is a lie:

    Matthew 12:31-32 (CEV)
    31-32 I tell you that any sinful thing you do or say can be forgiven. Even if you speak against the Son of Man, you can be forgiven. But if you speak against the Holy Spirit, you can never be forgiven, either in this life or in the life to come.

    Notice the contradiction between the ABSOLUTE statement "any sinful thing you do or say can be forgiven" and the next statement about cursing the Holy Spirit can not be forgiven.  This is not a trivial point, because it demonstrates that the statements that Christians use to prove their false trinity, from the Bible, are exaggerations like this one.

      

    The Holy Spirit disproves the trinity lie:

    Notice here how Jesus said that cursing him can be forgiven, while cursing the Holy Spirit can never be forgiven.  The following will make this quite clear or you:

    1-  Jesus in the Old Testament was always referred to as ABD (SLAVE) [1].  This is the same exact word that is used for the Gentile slaves of the Jews.

    2-  Jesus a few verses earlier in Matthew 12, was said that he was the CHOSEN SLAVE (ABD) [1] that GOD Almighty chose:

    Matthew 12
    17 So Godís promise came true, just as Isaiah the prophet had said,
    18 ďHere is my chosen servant
    (SLAVE, ABD) [1]!  I love him, and he pleases me.  I will give him my Spirit, and he will bring justice to the nations.

  • Both the OT and NT called him SLAVE OF GOD.
      
  • Note:  GOD's Spirit came upon many in the Bible [2].
      
  • Jesus, the Slave of GOD [1], also had the Spirit of fearing GOD in him:
      
    Isaiah 11:1-3 "1. A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
    2. The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him (Jesus)-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of
    counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD
    (Jesus fearing his GOD)--
    3. and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or
    decide by what he hears with his ears;"
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    3-  So when Jesus, the SLAVE OF GOD [
    1], said the following about the Holy Spirit:

    "....But if you speak against the Holy Spirit, you can never be forgiven, either in this life or in the life to come." (Matthew 12:31-32)

    Then there is no doubt that:

    (a)-  The Holy Spirit is Higher and Holier than Jesus.

    (b)-  The Holy Spirit is much closer to GOD Almighty than Jesus.

    (c)-  Jesus was only a creation of GOD Almighty and His Abd (Slave) [1]

    (d)-  We know in the OT, blaspheming GOD Almighty's Holy Name is punishable by death:

    Leviticus 24:16 Whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death. All the congregation shall stone him. The sojourner as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death.

    And Jesus said that he did not abolish or invalidate or nullify the Law of Moses.  He only came to fulfill its Prophecies regarding him:

    Matthew 5:17 ďDo not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

    So regarding GOD Almighty's Holy Name, we know that's a given!  And Jesus extended this Law by telling his followers that if you do also blaspheme the Holy Spirit, then your sin will never be forgiven!

    Even in Islam, the Holy Spirit belongs to the World of Command of Allah Almighty, and little was given to us regarding It:

    "They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: "The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men!)"  (The Noble Quran, 17:85)"

      
    Jesus said he would be a liar!

    Jesus further said that if he were to bear witness of himself, then his witness would be a lie, i.e., Jesus would be a liar: John 5:31 "If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true." (KJV)  This is despite the fact that Jesus, the SLAVE OF GOD [1] as the OT and NT both call him, performed many Miracles.  But still, he would be false if he dared to disobey GOD Almighty and bear witness of himself.  He simply was not given this authority by GOD Almighty.

      
    Moses and GOD:

    When GOD Almighty appeared to Moses, did He, the Almighty, require witnesses to prove Himself to Moses?  Was His Witness True?  Were His Words True?  Or were they false and lies?

    For ample verses on Jesus saying he is nothing without GOD Almighty, visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
      

      

      

    Now, why do we have to consider Jesus as the Creater of this Universe or someone who is equal to GOD just because GOD had put his spirit in Jesus, and not consider the many others who carried GOD's spirit above as equal to GOD?

    What does the Noble Quran say about Jesus and the Holy Spirit?

    Noble Verse 4:171 "O People of the Book (Jews and Christians)! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah
    aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah,
    and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe
    in Allah and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is
    one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all
    things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs."

    Noble Verse 5:110 "Then will Allah say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to
    thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit, so that thou didst speak to
    the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the
    Law and the Gospel and behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird,
    by My leave, and thou breathest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou
    healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the
    dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee
    when thou didst show them the clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: 'This
    is nothing but evident magic.' "

    Noble Verse 15:29 "When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My spirit,
    fall ye down in obeisance unto him."


    Noble Verse 16:102 "Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to
    strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims."

    Noble Verse 17:85 "They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: 'The Spirit (cometh) by
    command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O
    men!)' "

    Noble Verse 38:72 "When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My spirit,
    fall ye down in obeisance unto him."

    Noble Verse 58:22 "Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those
    who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons,
    or their brothers, or their kindred. For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and
    strengthened them with a spirit from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens
    beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein (for ever). Allah will be well pleased with
    them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allah. Truly it is the Party of Allah that
    will achieve Felicity."

    For more information about what the Noble Quran says about Jesus (peace be upon him) please visit: Jesus in the Noble Quran.

     

     

    What is the role of the Holy Spirit in Islam?  Why can't we call it GOD?

     

     

     

     

    Back to Answering Trinity section.

    Bible defines "Lying Spirits by GOD" to mean GOD MAKES YOU LIE; you have no will (2 Samuel 12:7-12).

    The Bible called Jesus a slave (abd) of GOD throughout the Old Testament.

    What is the definition of Messiah in the Quran?

    This topic is also thoroughly discussed at:

  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2265.msg10061.html#msg10061
  • www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,650.msg1523.html#msg1523 
    www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,868.msg3373.html#msg3373
    www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2141.msg9505/topicseen.html#msg9505
    www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1462.msg5590/topicseen.html#msg5590

    www.answering-christianity.com/sahih_muslim_declares_jesus_is_gods_word_and_spirit.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/john1_1.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/word_of_god.htm

    www.answering-christianity.com/self.htm

    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_of_maseeh_in_quran.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/spirit.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/holy_spirit.htm


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