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Rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's Article "The (In) Justice of Allah Examined"

By
Bassam Zawadi

 

 

 

Sam's article could be located here http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/allahs_justice.htm 

Sam Shamoun said:

The Quran says that Allah will judge everyone righteously, that no soul will ever be dealt with in an unjust manner:

These are the communications of Allah which We recite to you with truth, and Allah does not desire any injustice to the creatures. S. 3:108 Shakir

GOD does not inflict an atom's weight of injustice. On the contrary, He multiplies the reward manifold for the righteous work, and grants from Him a great recompense. S. 4:40 Khalifa

And We will set up a just balance on the day of resurrection, so no soul shall be dealt with unjustly in the least; and though there be the weight of a grain of mustard seed, (yet) will We bring it, and sufficient are We to take account. S. 21:47 Shakir

And God will judge with (justice and) Truth: but those whom (men) invoke besides Him, will not (be in a position) to judge at all. Verily it is God (alone) Who hears and sees (all things). S. 40:20 Y. Ali

These passages seem to be saying that Allah will be perfect in his judgments and that every person will receive exactly what he or she deserves, whether salvation or punishment depending on how they lived and what they believed. The Quran even claims that Allah will also be just to people of other religions:

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. S. 2:62 Y. Ali

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. S. 5:69 Y. Ali

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians, Christians, Magians, and Polytheists,- God will judge between them on the Day of Judgment: for God is witness of all things. S. 22:17 Y. Ali

However, the so-called sound traditions contradict the above statements since they quite plainly teach that Muslims who have professed faith in Allah’s unity and in the apostleship of Muhammad will enter paradise, even if they have committed evil acts:

Narrated Abu Dharr:

I came to the Prophet while he was wearing white clothes and sleeping. Then I went back to him again after he had got up from his sleep. He said, "Nobody says: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’ and then later on he dies while believing in that, except that he will enter Paradise." I said, "Even It he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft." I said, "Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft? He said. "Even If he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft." I said, "Even it he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and thefts." He said, "Even If he had committed Illegal sexual intercourse and theft, in spite of Abu Dharr’s dislikeness. Abu ‘Abdullah said, "This is at the time of death or before it if one repents and regrets and says ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’, he will be forgiven his sins." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 72, Number 717)

Narrated Abu Dharr:

The Prophet said, Gabriel came to me and gave me the glad tidings that anyone who died without worshipping anything besides Allah, would enter Paradise. I asked (Gabriel), ‘Even if he committed theft, and even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse?’ He said, ‘(Yes), even if he committed theft, and even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 579)

The traditions also claim that Allah will cast Jews and Christians into hell in the place of the Muslims! In other words, Allah will ransom Muslims

 

My Response:

Notice the last two lines of the Hadith that Shamoun first quoted and which he does not bother to highlight in bold. 

Narrated Abu Dharr:

I came to the Prophet while he was wearing white clothes and sleeping. Then I went back to him again after he had got up from his sleep. He said, "Nobody says: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’ and then later on he dies while believing in that, except that he will enter Paradise." I said, "Even It he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft." I said, "Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft? He said. "Even If he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft." I said, "Even it he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and thefts." He said, "Even If he had committed Illegal sexual intercourse and theft, in spite of Abu Dharr’s dislikeness. Abu ‘Abdullah said, "This is at the time of death or before it if one repents and regrets and says ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’, he will be forgiven his sins." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 72, Number 717)

This is for the man that repents. 

Secondly, as for Muslims who did not repent and Allah did not forgive them then they will be punished for their sins in Hell for a temporary amount of time......

 

Sahih Bukhari 

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 542:

Narrated Anas:

The Prophet said, "Some people who will be scorched by Hell (Fire) as a punishment for sins they have committed, and then Allah will admit them into Paradise by the grant of His Mercy. These people will be called, 'Al-JahannamiyyLin' (the people of Hell)."

 

However, ultimately at the very end they will attain paradise. Every Muslim will enter paradise indeed (inshallah), however if there are sins that the Muslim has committed and Allah has not forgiven then he will be 'cleansed' from the sins he or she committed. 

There are also other hadith which state that Muslims who have committed sins will be 'cleansed' by having a more painful death experience or having a punishment in the grave and therefore not go to hell. 

 

Ironically it is the God of the Bible that seems to be unjust in this matter. 

 

Matthew 5:17-20

17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

 

So the Bible teaches that even if you break the commandments and teach others to do so, you will still go to heaven but in a lesser position and level than those who do abide by them. So the punishment of those who break the commandments is for example 'besides getting a castle, you would only get a small mansion' There is no indication that they would even be punished for their sins. 

 

Sam Shamoun said:

The traditions also claim that Allah will cast Jews and Christians into hell in the place of the Muslims! In other words, Allah will ransom Muslims from their sins by punishing the Jews and Christians in their stead:

Chapter 8: THROWING OF NON-BELIEVERS IN HELL-FIRE FOR BELIEVERS AS DIVINE GRACE AND MERCY

Abu Musa' reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a Jew or a Christian and say: That is your RESCUE from Hell-Fire. (Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6665)

Abu Burda reported on the authority of his father that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: No Muslim would die but Allah would admit IN HIS STEAD a Jew or a Christian in Hell-Fire. 'Umar b. Abd al-'Aziz took an oath: By One besides Whom there is no god but He, thrice that his father had narrated that to him from Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). (Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6666)

Abu Burda reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: There would come people amongst the Muslims on the Day of Resurrection with AS HEAVY SINS AS A MOUNTAIN, and Allah would FORGIVE THEM and He would PLACE IN THEIR STEAD the Jews and the Christians. (As far as I think), Abu Raub said: I do not know as to who is in doubt. Abu Burda said: I narrated it to 'Umar b. 'Abd al-'Aziz, whereupon he said: Was it your father who narrated it to you from Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him)? I said: Yes. (Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6668)

 

My Response:

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Source: http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=1&Rec=6397

Its meaning is that Allah forgives the sins of the Muslims and removes it from them and places it on the Jews and Christians its same amount due to their disbelief and sins, so He places him in the hellfire due to their deeds and not the sins of the Muslims, and there cannot be any other explanation for this due to God’s statement: “None shall carry the burden of another’ (Surah 17:15)

And its possible that the sins being referred to (the ones that Allah will forgive from the Muslims) is because of the cause of the disbelievers, for if they caused it then it will be removed from the burden of Muslims by the mercy of Allah, and is placed on the disbelievers, for they instigated it, and whoever instigates a sin then he would receive a sin on his account for anyone that ever gets affected by it, and God knows best.

Let me give an example to clarify that. Lets say a non Muslim distributes drugs throughout the community. One Muslim happens to get his hands on these drugs and uses it. The Muslim gets a sin. However, the non Muslim gets a sin as well because it was his fault the Muslim is doing it. So if Allah on the day of judgment decides to forgive the Muslim for his sin, he would place it on the non Muslim. 

This does not guarantee that a Muslim who commits a sin because of a non Muslim will automatically get forgiven. No, it is only if Allah decides to forgive that Muslim. This also applies to Muslims who happen to be the cause of Muslims committing sins as well and does not only apply to the non Muslims.

 

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Source: http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=1&Rec=6395

And the meaning of this hadith came in the hadith of Abu Hurayrah ‘Everyone has a house in paradise and a house in hell’. So when the believer enters paradise behind him is a disbeliever who enters the hell fire earning it for his disbelief.

It is also said that the reason this statement was said was in order to ensure and relieve the Muslims that the house that they have in hell is now filled. This psychologically relieves the Muslim so that he won't think that he would need to have the house filled. However, God filled it with a Christian or a Jew. He did not put them there unjustly but justly because of their disbelief. (Source: http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=1&Rec=6396)

 

Sam Shamoun said:

The following narrations are taken from Riyad as-Salihin:

412. 'Ubada ibn as-Samit reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Whoever testifies that there is no god but Allah alone with no partner and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger and that 'Isa is the slave of Allah and His Messenger and a word which He cast into Maryam and a spirit from Him and that the Garden is real and the Fire is real will enter the Garden WHATEVER HIS ACTIONS." [Agreed upon]

This hadith expands the requirement for salvation by making it necessary to confess Jesus as Allah’s Word and Spirit. Thus, it is not enough to mention Muhammad since the Islamic creedal confession must include a statement of belief in Jesus as well.

My Response:

 

Sam fails to understand the fact that if someone says  'Whoever testifies that there is no god but Allah alone with no partner and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger' automatically means that the person proclaims that Jesus is a Messenger of God. Because that is what the Prophet Muhammad came and taught us. So even if I say "Whoever testifies that there is no god but Allah alone with no partner and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger and Moses is the Messenger of God' or 'Whoever testifies that there is no god but Allah alone with no partner and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger and Noah is the messenger of God' I am still a Muslim because I said the essential part of the statement which is 'Whoever testifies that there is no god but Allah alone with no partner and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger' because once that statement is said, it automatically means that you proclaim belief in all the Messengers mentioned in the Quran. 

I have already explained in this article http://www.answering-christianity.com/bassam_zawadi/sunni_shahada_rebuttal.htm.

Sam Shamoun said:

415. Anas said, "The Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, was riding with Mu'adh behind him. He said, 'Mu'adh!' He replied, 'At your service, Messenger of Allah.' He said, 'Mu'adh!' He replied, 'At your service, Messenger of Allah' three times. Then the Prophet said, 'There is no one who testifies that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, sincerely from his heart, without Allah making it unlawful for the Fire to touch him.' Mu'adh said, 'Messenger of Allah, shall I tell the people that so that they can rejoice?' He said, 'Then they will rely on it.' Mu'adh related it when he was dying, fearing to commit a wrong action [by concealing the knowledge]." [Agreed upon]

426. Mu'adh ibn Jabal said, "I was riding behind the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, on a donkey. He asked, 'Mu'adh, do you know what is Allah's right on His slaves and the right of the slaves on Allah?' I replied, 'Allah and His Messenger know best.' He said, 'Allah's right on His slaves is that they should worship Him and not associate anything with Him. The slaves' right on Allah is that He will not punish anyone who does not associate anything with Him.' I said, 'Messenger of Allah, shall I tell the people that so that they can rejoice?' He said, 'Then they will rely on it.'" [Agreed upon]

432. Abu Musa al-Ash'ari reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "On the Day of Rising, Allah will hand over a Jew or a Christian to every Muslim and say, 'Here is your redemption from the Fire." [Muslim]

In another variant from him is that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Some of the Muslims will be brought on the Day of Rising with sins the size of mountains and Allah will forgive them."

(Al-Imam Abu Zakariya Yahya bin Sharaf An-Nawawi Ad-Dimashqi, Riyad as-Salihin (The Meadows of the Righteous), 51. Chapter: On Hope; online edition)

 

My Response:

Lets read the commentary of these hadith....

Commentary of Hadith 415:

Imam At-Taibi says that the honesty of heart means firmness of faith and arrangement of actions which will provide evidence of Tauhid and Risalah (Oneness and Allah and the Prophethood of Muhammad (PBUH) ). Al Hafiz Ibn Hajar states that Imam at-Taibi has made this elaboration to remove the ambiguity which arises from the wording of the Hadith because it is generally held by Ahadith that one who bears witness to Tauhid and Risalah will not go to Hell, while Ahlus-Sunnah hold that it stands proved by concrete arguments that sinful Muslims will be consigned to Hell and then brought out by intercession. It shows that for the determination of real meanings of this Hadith we shall have to keep in view other related arguments as well. These meanings are riveted with good deeds. In other words, one who bears witness to Tauhid and Risalah and fulfills Islamic injunctions and obligations and requirements of Faith and fear of Allah, will not be consigned to Hell. Some scholars are of the opinion that this Hadith refers to such people who truly repented and renounced Kufr (disbelief) and Shirk (polytheism) wholeheartedly professed Tauhid and Risalah but died soon after that and thus did not get an opportunity to do good deeds (the author made a mistake and he meant to say bad deeds). Such people will certainly go to Jannah (paradise). 

The Hadith leads to the conclusion that ordinary people should not be told things the true meanings of which they find difficult to grasp and accomplish evil deeds relying on such glad tidings. 

Commentary of Hadith 426:

This hadith tells us that ordinary people , who are generally unable to understand the meanings of things in their context, will think that mere verbal profession of Tauhid and Risalah is sufficient to attain forgiveness, and it is not necessary to do what this profession entails. With this notion, they become unmindful of the obligations. Verbal profession does give them the security that they would not abide in Hell forever for ultimately they will go to Jannah (paradise). Our people are generally under the impression that all sinful Muslims, like the perfect Muslims, will go to Jannah in the very first instance. According to proofs furnished by other injunctions of Shariah, this is not so. This point has been already discussed at length earlier. In any case, the point made here is that no Muslim will go to Hell means that no Muslim will abide in Hell forever. It does not mean that however a sinful Muslim may be, he will not be sent to Hell or suffer its torments. 

 

The commentaries are clear enough and requires no further elaborations. 

As for Hadith no. 432, I already explained this earlier. 

 

Sam Shamoun said:

In light of the foregoing, can anyone really believe that the god of Islam is just? Where is the justice in Allah simply overlooking the sins of people without demanding that his holiness be satisfied and that the debt be paid? Where is the justice of Allah in punishing Jews and Christians for the sins of the Muslims? Is this how Allah encourages Muslims, by telling them that no matter what evil act they commit they have nothing to fear since as long as they die confessing absolute faith in the unity of Allah they will receive forgiveness for all their vile and immoral acts?

My Response:

In light of the forgoing we see that Allah is nothing but Just and that the Bible in Matthew 5:19 actually shows that people will still go to heaven even if they break the commandments and teach others to do so and there is no sign of them getting punished for their sins before they enter heaven.

 

 Sam Shamoun responded back to this and I responded back here

 

 

 

 

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